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More 747-8F orders?

David Harris by David Harris
November 6, 2013
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Boeing recently announced that it was slowing 747-8 production from 1.75 units per month to 1.5 due to lack of orders, but there are hints the manufacturer is close to some good news on the order front, at least on the freighter side of things.

  • First, while Cathay’s remaining three firm-ordered 747-8Fs have been built and are awaiting delivery (one in November, two in December), we have seen a reference to another freighter in the early stages of production slated for Cathay, along with rumors from several sources indicating that Cathay is negotiating with Boeing for several more 747-8Fs, with Boeing to take back Cathay’s remaining 747-400Fs as part of the deal. Cargo Facts believes, but has not been able to confirm, that this may all be part of a larger deal in which Cathay will place a launch order for Boeing’s new 777X.
  • Second, a 747-8F that has been almost all white since it was built, recently received some fresh paint. This 747-8F (37564 ), one of the early-build units, was originally one of twelve ordered by Atlas Air Worldwide holdings, but Atlas exercised a contractual right to cancel the first three of those orders. Two of the three were eventually sold to an “unidentified customer” and are now being operated by Saudia Cargo, but the third remained an orphan – all white except for Atlas livery on its rudder. However, in late October it appeared sporting fresh blue paint on its nacelles – Atlas blue [or Silk Way blue — see comment below]. No announcement has been made about a customer, but the fresh paint suggests that something must be in the works.

Unconfirmed rumors and speculation at this point, but interesting nonetheless. 

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Comments 4

  1. davidharris says:
    7 years ago

    When thinking about who might be a potential customer for the 747-8F mentioned in the second bullet point above, I checked photos of all the 747-8F operators I could find, and the only blue nacelles I saw were on Atlas Air’s livery. However, a sharp-eyed reader reminds me that Azerbaijan-based Silk Way’s freighters also sport blue nacelles, and although Silk Way is not a current 747-8F operator, it does have two on firm order with Boeing.

  2. mariofelarca says:
    7 years ago

    I believe that the 2 firm Silk Way frames have already been allocated in the firing order.

    L/N 1501 – 747-8xxF**, RC671, Silk Way Airlines #1 ?, Boeing operator code : 662
    L/N 1502 – 747-8xxF**, RC672, Silk Way Airlines #2 ?, Boeing operator code : 662

    Silk Way does have 2 remaining MoUs I believe, so that is definitely still a possibility. Others have also noted that the nacelles could be seen as “BA World Cargo” blue, which could possibly still mean that it is going to Atlas overall.

    Regarding the Cathay 8F order, have you heard anything that would give legs to the idea that they may be getting some 8Is as well? Those rumors have been bouncing around for years, but perhaps with the PIP, LH’s experiences, and somehow working into the 777X deal, they may actually come to fruition?

     

  3. davidharris says:
    7 years ago

    Mario — Regarding the rumors of CX getting 747-8 pax aircraft, I can’t add anything. I’ve heard people speculate about it, but haven’t seen any evidence one way or the other.

  4. mariofelarca says:
    7 years ago

    Thanks for the information, I guess it’s just wait and see what the show brings. Hopefully we get an answer for where that last Atlas NTU is going as well!

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